The Virus that Trumps Epstein-Barr

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  • Episode Name: “The Virus that Trumps Epstein-Barr”
  • Live Broadcast: July 17, 2018 at 12:00 pm Pacific Time
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Episode Summary Re-cap

98% of people have the Epstein-Barr Virus, or EBV. Could it be behind the epidemic rise in autoimmune and neuroimmune disease? Or is there something more insidious going on? Joining Heather is Dr. Judy Mikovits, renowned molecular biologist with expertise in immunology, virology, and epigenetics. She will reveal the virus that trumps EBV and what you need to know about silencing it. Discover key nutrition and natural remedies to silence these insidious viral conditions and help your immune system heal.

Judy MikovitsSpecial Guest: Judy Mikovits, PhD

Judy A. Mikovits, PhD has focused her life as a research scientist on curing cancer to honor her grandfather who died of cancer when she was a teenager. Dr. Mikovits earned her BA from University of Virginia and PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology from George Washington University. In her 35-year quest to understand and treat chronic diseases, she has studied immunology, natural products chemistry, epigenetics, virology and drug development.

In just over twenty years she rose from an entry-level lab technician to become director of the lab of Antiviral Drug Mechanisms at the National Cancer Institute before leaving to direct the Cancer Biology program at EpiGenX Pharmaceuticals in Santa Barbara, California where she had met and married David Nolde in 2000.

There, in 2006, she became attracted to the plight of patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Autism. In only five years she developed the first neuroimmune institute from a concept to a reality and is primarily responsible for demonstrating the relationship between immune-based inflammation and these diseases. She has published over 50 scientific papers and the book, Plague.

Dr. Judy A. Mikovits founded MARC, Inc. with her collaborator Dr. Frank Ruscetti.

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Is Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) Behind Autoimmune and Neuroimmune Conditions?

Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) is in the herpes virus family (human herpesvirus 4) and it’s responsible for mononucleosis – remember, the “kissing disease?” About 98% of the human population has EBV, so it’s very common, and it’s transmitted by salivia. Symptoms include rash, swollen lymph glands, fatigue, fever, and inflamed throat.

There are 9 human herpesviruses that have been described and we’ve co-evolved with these herpesviruses for millions of years. The disturbance of the communication of the immune system is how health problems happen.

What Are Retroviruses

Retroviruses are RNA viruses and our genome is DNA. EBV is a DNA virus. Retroviruses take things a lot further by cutting open the DNA of the cell they infect and inserting themselves into your DNA, which can change the expression of your genes. They most often negatively impact your immune system. Examples are XMRV, HIV AIDS, autism, ME/CFS and more. Retroviruses hijack your methylation – a biochemical process that occurs billions of times every second, affects just about every system in the human body and is essential for health and longevity.

Retroviruses occur when viruses endogenous to animals (which by definition, are not infectious to us) have been combined with human endogenous viruses in a science lab. Think of this as the creation of a kind of Frankenstein virus.

It’s possible that there are some strains of EBV that have been turned into a para-retrovirus, like hepatitis B (HBV). In this case, the EBV para-retrovirus would be more serious than EBV because it can take over the expression of your DNA.

This combination often happens in vaccines, which is why there is such a controversy over having choice in vaccinations, especially with immunocompromised individuals. The challenge with vaccines is that they can introduce retroviruses, heavy metals (like mercury and aluminum) and other toxins into tissue. Injecting into tissue basically tricks your body’s natural defenses and once inside your bloodstream and lymphatic system, these new retroviruses start breaking the communication of your immune system and confusing it about what is self and what is other.

It used to be that we never vaccinated AIDS or cancer patients because, in science, they knew these folks were immune compromised. However, now these patients are vaccinated, which is a major challenge to their immunity.

What Is Happening to Your Immune System

The job of your immune system is to be able to tell the difference between self and other.

All of divalent cations (minerals like zinc, calcium, magnesium, for example) are positively charged and DNA is negatively charged (think of these as energies). Minerals and ions are critical for immune function and communication with the goal of creating balance between the positive and negatively charged energies. Retroviruses use these up and inhibit the ability for your immune system to do its job.

Dr. Judy tells us that all chronic illnesses, like cancer, autoimmune and neuroimmune conditions, are actually acquired immunodeficiency syndromes. In other words, the immune system can no longer tell the difference between self and other.

Unfortunately, most of us have been vaccinated, exposed to environmental and food toxins, stressed, and exposed to electromagnetic fields. These are training your body with a different frequency, thus confusing your immune system or, retraining it so that it no longer knows the difference between self and other and cannot protect you as well.

Learn how vaccines given at key points of brain development, age, or hormonal events can confuse or compromise your immune system.

Stress, toxins, and nutritional deficiencies create “energies” that adversely impact the body. They stress the body, cause mineral and vitamin losses, and break the all-important communication pathways that your immune system needs to do its job. Learn more about how your immune system works.

How to Heal from EBV and Retroviruses

Dr. Judy firmly believes in the body’s ability to heal, whether a virus or retrovirus. The most critical steps you can take to heal from any chronic illness is to support your immune system.

To truly heal your immune system, consider embracing the ways of our ancestors. In particular, think back to the days of your grandparents or great-grandparents. They lived closer to the land, ate organic foods, knew their neighbors, had less stress and more work/life balance.

Here are some superstar steps to support your immune-system health:

  • Focus on healing your gut. Healing leaky gut and supporting a healthy gut microbiome is critical since more than 70% of your immunity is in your gut.
  • Eat gut-healing, immune-boosting organic foods. Learn more about the foods that support your health and healing. Bone broth is a wonderful gut-healing food that also supports your immune system. Learn more about gut healing foods and bone broth.
  • Support your endocannabinoid system. Your endocannabinoid system is helpful in aiding your immunity. CBD oil and medical cannabis, along with terpenes from essential oils can be excellent options.
  • Take minerals. Most people are mineral deficient, which is even more problematic when experiencing health issues. Using full-spectrum ionic liquid mineral supplements, like Anderson’s Sea MD, 40,000 Volts (this has extra potassium for adrenal support), or Restore (a mixture of minerals for gut health) are very helpful in restoring energy, gut health, and immune health.
Learn more about how to use medical cannabis and other immune-healing plants to silence retroviruses in the replay video of our online class!

In Immune-Healing Foods, Supplements & Remedies Part 1, you will learn:

  • The Benefits of Baicalin – Baicalin is an extract of Blue Skullcap, a plant remedy with many healing benefits. Find out why baicalin supports immune system health, sleep, and more. Learn how and when to take it, and discover where to source it.
  • Medical Cannabis and CBD Oil – Medical cannabis and CBD oil have been studied for benfits for your immune system, digestive system, nervous system; and how it can support sleep, moods, memory, connective tissue, pain relive, and more. Learn the types, strains, and terpenes that help with different health conditions.
  • Dosing – Discuss what clinical results and research is showing about dosing. How much of each to take and how to listen to your body to identify what is working for you. How to know when to make adjustments.
  • Q&A – Dr. Judy Mikovits answers questions about how to put these healing plants to use in a variety of health situations.
  • Video Recording – This is a video recording of a class in our non-profit program, The Wellness Project by Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation.
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Heather Dane

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